Watching Scotty Groan

Here’s how you attempt to claim that you are not torturing prisoners when you are, in fact, torturing prisoners:

White House Briefing: McClellan Deflects Questions on Torture Exemption A Couple Dozen Times

MR. McCLELLAN: Our most important responsibility is to protect the American people. We are engaged in a global war against Islamic radicals who are intent on spreading a hateful ideology, and intent on killing innocent men, women and children.

Q Did we ask for an exemption?

MR. McCLELLAN: We are going to do what is necessary to protect the American people.

Q Is that the answer?

MR. McCLELLAN: We are also going to do so in a way that adheres to our laws and to our values. We have made that very clear. The President directed everybody within this government that we do not engage in torture. We will not torture. He made that very clear.

Q Are you denying we asked for an exemption?

MR. McCLELLAN: Helen, we will continue to work with the Congress on the issue that you brought up. The way you characterize it, that we’re asking for exemption from torture, is just flat-out false, because there are laws that are on the books that prohibit the use of torture. And we adhere to those laws.

Q We did ask for an exemption; is that right? I mean, be simple — this is a very simple question.

MR. McCLELLAN: I just answered your question. The President answered it last week.

Q What are we asking for?
Q Would you characterize what we’re asking for?

MR. McCLELLAN: We’re asking to do what is necessary to protect the American people in a way that is consistent with our laws and our treaty obligations. And that’s what we —

Q Why does the CIA need an exemption from the military?

MR. McCLELLAN: David, let’s talk about people that you’re talking about who have been brought to justice and captured. You’re talking about people like Khalid Shaykh Muhammad; people like Abu Zubaydah.

Q I’m asking you —

MR. McCLELLAN: No, this is facts about what you’re talking about.

Q Why does the CIA need an exemption from rules that would govern the conduct of our military in interrogation practices?

…and on it goes. There is more than enough evidence that we are torturing prisoners, that we’re hauling them away to secret military bases, and that we’re keeping them away from human rights organizations. Why are we torturing people? Because the American public, on the whole, has no problem with torture, as long as we’re the torturers.

We are the people our government warned us about. Words cannot describe how disgusted I am with my own country.

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5 Responses to Watching Scotty Groan

  1. rone says:

    Let’s not equate the government with the country, even if the country did elect the current régime. Bush’s approval rate keeps dropping, making “the country” less accurate as time goes on.

  2. Argott says:

    It’s disgusting that more people haven’t recognize the slippery slope, not to mention the immorality of it all. I thought you might be interested in seeing what Eschaton linked to today.

    http://thinkprogress.org/2005/11/09/wh-alters-transcript/

    They seem to be getting less effective at throwing things in the memory hole lately.

  3. Charles says:

    Of course you realize that if the pres says that we do not engage in torture then that must be so, right? It’s not as if he’s ever lied to us before.

    However, notice that at first it was laws and value, then it was laws, then it was laws and treaty obligations. I find it interesting that he dropped the thought of values.

  4. Dave says:

    You make a good point, rone. After all, if the country supported Bush as much as I fear, then the Republicans wouldn’t have had to fix two elections to get him in office.

  5. rone says:

    Hey, no fix would have sufficed if the Democrats hadn’t chosen a couple of stiffs to run against him.